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Free Trade Copier
You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.
Updated 10/30/2023
- You can use TP1 only, this is how to get a higher win rate.
- You can use TP2 only, this is a lower rin rate.
- You can use TP1 & TP2 with half risk on each, this way is growing in popularity recently.
Every trader is different, so how you like to use our signals, will be different from other traders. Find what works for you, and profit with us!
If you have any issues with the Copier I suggest moving to the MT4 version, as that’s the version that I use.
NEW: Select Channel! (works for GOLD as well)

Watch these videos to learn how the copy trader works.
Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)
Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!
The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.
VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.
Yes. Everything needs to be open!
MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.
You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.
If trading GOLD in the GOLD room, you will want to set your PIP TOLERANCE to 20.
Just double click on the account file in the same folder as the Telegram_Connector.
You can enter the correct phone number, like if you forgot to put a +1 or something.

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.
But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.
These are the two VPS companies I use:
Worldwide Clients:
United States Clients:
A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.
Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.
When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.
It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.
This is no longer the case always (we have reports that it can work without a blinking cursor)
One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.
After he did this, it stopped crashing.
If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.
In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.
Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.
Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.
You need to allow autotrading / live trading.
Go to Tools > Options
Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading
Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties
Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading
This will resolve the sad face issue.
You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.
You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.
In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.
So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i
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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.
Just simply type and press enter.
The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.
If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.
I actually had to do this myself, and it works.
Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.
This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪
The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂
VIP members only who are serious about trading.
Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.
Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.
The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.
You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.
No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.
Currently, we report results based on the best conditions of a single position.
If a trade hits SL it is triggered at -1%.
If a trade hits TP1 it is reported at +1%.
If a trade hits TP2 only TP2 is reported, so 2-3%, whatever the TP2 is.
So, if a trade hits TP2 and the TP2 is 3%, we don’t claim the trade won +4%, the same way we don’t claim -2% if we hit a SL.
I do believe this is the best way of reporting because it is in line with how the majority of our clients use our signals.
1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly
Solve problems
1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly
If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)
The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 1)
The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 2)
If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.
I look forward to growing your accounts!
Much love.
I WANT COPY TRADES FOR MT5
Yes, this is here on this page. Follow the instructions.
but even the video you mentioned that is for mt 4 only
The MT5 version is available and was released over 12 months ago now.
i want know to use it
Hi Pat, hope you’re well. I’ve recently joined VIP. I just wondered what the contact email address is please because I’ve got a few queries?
That would be the contact page on this website George.
again why are my comments beiing deleted?
Nobody is deleting your comments. Every comment awaits moderation, like any other blog. Please stop spamming this page.
what is the suffix for oanda mt4? or how can i find it,
Simply look at your chart.
hi pat on mt5 do we still need to do the telegram connector?
Yes, you do.
so on mt5 i just rune the EA in mt5 and run the telegram connector and its that simple now i just wait for a signal? (im new to EA’s and this in general)
also if using mt5 do we still put telegram connector in mql4 or mql5 folder? thanks
MQL5
Hi Pat,
Just joined. Using a MacBook and MT5. Went to follow your instructions on the installation but only part of it works. No Telegram connection for some reason. Settings on the MT5 platform different. Assistance would be appreciated as want to get moving on these trades with you.
There’s quite a few MAC book users in the room, over 100. Check the comments they have here, and the guide provided by a MAC client in the download file.
Hi Patrick, I just got in your Forex VIP room a week ago, it’s great but I don’t understand one aspect.So you are giving us a signal with 2 trades , 1 for 1:1 RR and 2 with 1:2 RR. So we are risking 2% for each signal? I’m asking you because when is a loss is 1% and when TP 2 is hit , is a 2% Win. Can you explain please?
HI Cristi, please see the FAQ on this page, just a bit above here, it’s all dicussed. On an SL we don’t claim -2%, the same way we don’t claim +3% on a win..
Salut Patrick!
I cant find instructions on how to install the robot on mac. The file in downloaded folder contains only the code. i cant find detailed instructions
These are in the zip file that you download with the copier.
HI PAT, I am already a VIP MEMBER for FX and have setup accounts on MT4 with Latest updated version of EA, Just i took subscription for Gold. So is the same Ea work for both Fx and Gold. Please explain.
Yes, in the EA properties select the correct room in the drop down menu.
Hi Pat,
I emailed about the trade copier and got your response, I have tried everything but can’t seem to get the mt4 connector to have a blinking cursor, any idea how to fix this as my trades are not copying when everything else seems fine?
Thanks
Hi Kyle, blinking isn’t a requirement any longer.
IF I DEPOSIT 200 EUROS WHAT SETTINGS SHOULD I PUT ON THE BOT?
The trades aren’t being canceled
/deleted when the instruction is sent in Telegram. The bot works with everything else and there’s no error messages at all. Is there a solution or new update?
Did you download the latest update?
I have recently downloaded the newest version, I will test it out and let you know. Thanks for the response
Hi
How can I activate partition close option in trade copier?
Hello. Every trade that is opened is closed at TP1, even though in Telegram it says the trade remains open. Is this just a setting in the EA that I am overlooking? Thanks!
Maybe you are only running TP1? Check your settings.
I am using the default settings, but TP1 is being set in MT4.
Hi Pat,
I want to know does the trade copier work in MT5
Yes it does. If you can use MT4, use MT4, but if you can’t use MT5.
Hello,
I need to change my TWP VIP access to a different telegram account. I no longer have access to the account that I subscribed with. How do I go about getting access with my new account?
You emailed us, and we resolved this already.
Hi there I need help with the trade copier I don’t know what to do
It’s say great for propfirm accounts but as far as I know they don’t allow copy trading (multiple traders placing the same trades) is there a way around this or a solution?
We haven’t had any complaints, and have had clients pass prop firms. Why is it the prop firms business at all?
Hi Pat. I got the lifetime membership. Is it supposed to be for both forex and gold, or just forex pairs?
Also, when are signals mostly posted?
There is no lifetime gold membership yet. London mostly.
Hey I need some help I have both the VIP room and the Gold room and I have the copy trader ea on 2 different hankotrade accounts and it’s only copying the forex VIP and not gold and I want one to just do Gold and not forex and the other to do forex but both are only copying forex. What am I doing wrong I cant find the info sorry?
Make sure gold is selected in the drop down menu.
Hi Trevor…did you manage to resolve this issue? Having the same problem.
Is it possible that the gold copier opens limit orders as market executions?
Is there a way to fix this?
Download new version please.
Hi Pat, where I can set the bot to still take 1% of fixed capital? For example – initial capital 50k usd, I want to always risk 500usd. If losses occur, for example on 45k usd capital, I still want to risk 500usd ( 1% of 50k )
Thank you
HI Jakub, please read the guide and watch videos on this page. They will show you how to do this.
The trade copier software seems ti be only compatible with windows. Is there a trade copier you apply with MAC compatibility?
We have hundreds of clients using the copier on MAC. Follow the MAC guide.. read the comments here as well.
Hey Pat. Been in the VIP and Gold room for a few weeks now and signals have been amazing. I have the TWP copier setup on VPS and it’s working beautifully. However, one trade in the gold room got stopped out last Friday and I noticed that you closed it manually in the group 30 minutes later since the price returned back to the entry price so you didn’t get stopped out on your trade. I’m with Pepperstone and have super super tight spreads but maybe not as tight as HKT. It only just hit my stop loss by a teeny fraction. I have my pip tolerance set to 20 pips in the TWP copier for the gold room. As it was fractional what would you suggest I suggest the tolerance to? do I need to make it lower to maybe 10 pips perhaps?
YA I think 20 is fine for GOLD. You can certainly test others. Make sure the latest gold copier is installed, that fixes an issue with this.
hello,
i am having issues with typing in my password for the telegram connector. typing seems to not be functioning, it doesn’t allow for copy and paste either 🙁
thanks in advance
It is hidden, but it’s there. Please see FAQ on this page.
Hi Pat, for some reason the telegram connector is closing by itself after a few hours. Any thoughts?
Try re-installing. I’ve never had this happen.
Hey bro so with the VIP are all these open orders gonna ever close? I have like 3 open ones lol. And can I run gold and fx with your bot on the same account? Or would I need 2 separate accounts? I want to give gold a try. I currently use the FX one you provide and I get good results from that so far.
We have 3 open swing trades. We are close to hitting TP2 on one of them, and the other the market bias is good. You run in the same account, just open another chart and make sure magic number is different in ea properties.
Hi..I can’t get the telegram connector .exe file to open on my mac. Can anyone advise me please?
Hi Pat, Why is my querry on the code needed to be entered missing form this list if Q & A?
Hi Pat, While trying to install the telegramtoMT4, the prompt ask that a code that was sent be entered. Where was this code sent to? was it my email or my phnoe, This was immediately after I entered my phone number tith the + sign.Could someome assist me here please. Thank you
I ran into the same issue, I was waiting for it to show up via text… however it actually sends it to your Telegram account. Found the code, works perfectly.
Hi, I have just joined your fx room for signaila .while trying to install the telegramtoMT4 on thepc ,after putting in my phone number ,it asked me to enter the code that were sent.where is trhis code sent to ? isd it my email or my phoneas I can t seem to find the code.Apprecoate if someone from your end can assist me in this matter,Thank you
Can i have the trading bot running in both the fx and gold room? if so how?
Open new chart, different magic number. See FAQ here.
Hi Pat, I set everything by your manual.. but copier its not working.. I have Purple trading acc.. so I set symbol suffix to _raw. Emoji in MT4 is smiling .. so idk where is the problem ( auto trading allowed, etc .. ) .. Today mornig you sent signal to Telegram, but my telegram connector dont recieved any signal.
Hi there,
The Signals from Telegramtomt4 did not publish to my mt4 hanko account. In the Application(Telegramtomt4) was a several error occured like:
warning: telethon.network.connection.:Server closed the connection
Error:telethon.network.mtprotosender:Unhandled error while receiving data
I don’t know what this errors mean….
Today in mt5 filed canceled order CHFJPY, please check this error, I have screenshot
Hi Pat im on the VIP GOLD Room and use the copier robot. The problem is that i put 1% risk on TP1 and TP2 but the robot use more than this 2%, can you tell me why and now to fix?
Can the copy trade only be done with an account that was opened with meta trader 4 directly? I have an MT4 account with forex.com but I am having trouble getting it to work with it. It is its own software.
ATTENTION ALL MAC USERS: The Trade Copier works with MAC computers including the Telegram Connector. Getting the .exe file to work is the key! I finally got mine installed properly and it is working flawlessly.
Pat I have to apologize for making your world a little hectic with my comments saying it don’t work for macs. Thanks for an amazing EA.
I’m willing to help anyone that needs help with their MAC installation.
Hello that’s great to hear I’m having trouble with my mac and mt5. I see the telegram connector read the signals but they are not copying onto my MetaTrader.
Hi…can’t get the telegram connector .exe file to run on a mac. Can you help? Cheers
hey mate I would love some help with the telegram copier for MAC!
any chance I can reach out? I think I need your help! thanks mate! hope to chat soon
Does this still not work for MT5? I see a MT5 download for the trade copier but not a download for the telegram one
This has always worked for MT5, and still does work for MT5. The same trade copier works for both.
Hi Pat, regarding the Copier, I wold like to know if he issues coments on trades? Because I wold like to use it in a prop firm
How can I run the copier for both VIP and Gold? Can I attach both EA’s onto different charts on the same MT4 platform? or do I need to run separate MT4’s for them?
Thanks!
Hi Jason, did you receive the answer to your question? I have the same question so keen to know the answer. I assumed one EA can take commands from both VIP telegram chanels.
My broker have a high spread (between 20-35) so what do i put the pip tolrence to?
Hello Pat, I just want to ask how many pips is your breakeven? because you sent in the VIP room that SL sent to BE and then later TP was hit but my breakeven was triggered.
Breakeven means set to the entry point of the trade. Maybe your spreads got you.
when u say “close the trade manually” will the Robot then do i or do i have to do it myself?
The copier will follow our commands. But open your phone, make sure that it closes when we tell it to, don’t just rely on it all the time. Get involved.
And my brookers spread is really high. half of them are around 30 and the other half are around 20. So what would u recommmend to put my pip tolerernce.
Hello, I have the ea up and running. I wonder if it’s possible to manually adjust the risk % for the lots calculation. According to what I see, the EA is supposed to trade with 1% per trade but it’s actually taking way less than 1%. And the TPs are way smaller than 2% in profits for me as well.
Thanks!
You can adjust the profits to whichever suit you, the settings are all explained in our guide as well as how to increase risk.
Thanks for the reply. Was able to adjust it now, look forward to next week trades since I don’t think we’ll have more trades for today.
Hi, I followed Mac guide but it’s not very clear It only tells you to copy and paste files but still can’t connect my telegram account. What should I do? anyone with the same problem?
I do not have a MAC so my help is limited there. The guide has worked for hundreds of members so far.
You have to double-click on the Telegram_Connector_v1_02.exe file form within your MT4. It took me a while to figure it out, but I finally got it to connect. Like Pat said, it’s in the directions.
Hi Pat! I have a question , if I dont use the Hanko trade broker or the others that you recommended , wouldn´t the copy trader work? Because the broker that I use is Roboforex and since yesterday I am inthe TWP Gold VIP group and I have configured everything even with the smiley face in MT4 and it does not execute any operations. Is it because of the broker? or is it another kind of problem?
Make sure the suffix is set. Everything is open. GOLD is selected in the drop down.
What should I put in suffix? If my broker is not Hanko Trade?
You would put whatever your broker suffix is. So whatever comes after the pair. EURUSD.HKT means suffix = .HKT.
will this Copy trading work on Demo account
Yes
I’m new to VIP alerts, you haven’t posted one with the Gold for 2 days ago and you don’t have a VIP group where we have direct contact with you. You tell us to close the operations manually. Remember for those of us who have funded accounts, these losses are fatal, I think I will continue with my strategy. Thank you.
The trades we have been closing manually, have been in profit, which makes them wins, not losses.
hi pat
let say i opend a trade manually and you sent break even the trade, will the robot do it? or becouse i opend it manually the robot wont interfe?
Robot won’t interfere with your manual trades.
Hi, I had joined FX and Gold , but the copier only copy FX VIP group, dont have copy for Gold.
I had sent email to your team but not yet got reply, any solution?
Download the copier, select GOLD room, we reply to all emails check your junk mail.
Hi Pat
Thanks for your reply, I downloaded the file in this pages (Copier showing 1.02)(Updated 9/24/2023) which is doesnt have Gold room can select, only got Forex Robot Nation VIP and TWP VIP channel can select.
Thanks
Then download the new version for Gold room.
Hi Pat, I see 3 options, TWP VIP, TWP Gold and Forex Robot Nation VIP. If I want both Forex and Gold, what do I select? Should I add EA twice?
HI Anil, you need separate charts, 1 for gold 1 for twp vip. There is no FRN VIP anymore.