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Free Trade Copier

You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.

Updated 10/30/2023

By downloading the TWP VIP Free Trade Copier, you agree to the terms of service & disclaimer.

There best was to take profit in 2024 is by opening 1 trade at a time, and managing that yourself when possible.

You can set TP1 only, or TP2 only and then manage that trade as it goes.

I don’t recommend opening 2 positions, 1 for each take profit level. I find this method unprofitable.

Every trader is different, so how you like to use our signals, will be different from other traders. Find what works for you, and profit with us!

If you have any issues with the Copier I suggest moving to the MT4 version, as that’s the version that I use.

The best way to use the signals is opening 1 position at a time, and being involved in the process completely. Your ability to let trades ride, cut trades short, set break evens properly is going to give you the BEST possible result.

NEW: Select Channel! (works for GOLD as well)

Watch these videos to learn how the copy trader works.

Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)

Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!

What is the Forex Robot Nation Trade Copier?

The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.

How does it work?

VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.

Does this need to be left open?

Yes. Everything needs to be open!

MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.

You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.

Required GOLD Setting Change

If trading GOLD in the GOLD room, you will want to set your PIP TOLERANCE to 20.

I entered the wrong Phone Number, what do I do?

Just double click on the account file in the same folder as the Telegram_Connector.

You can enter the correct phone number, like if you forgot to put a +1 or something.

What If I can’t leave my computer on?

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.

But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.

These are the two VPS companies I use:

Worldwide Clients:

United States Clients:

A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.

Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.

When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.

TelegramToMT4 Requirement

It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.

This is no longer the case always (we have reports that it can work without a blinking cursor)

TelegramToMT4 Crashing

One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.

After he did this, it stopped crashing.

How to use only TP1 or only TP2?

If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.

In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.

Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.

The best way to use the signals is opening 1 position at a time, and being involved in the process completely. Your ability to let trades ride, cut trades short, set break evens properly is going to give you the BEST possible result.
Why is Forex Robot Nation Copier showing a sad face or generally not working :(?

Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.

You need to allow autotrading / live trading.

Go to Tools > Options

Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading

Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties

Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading

This will resolve the sad face issue.

How many charts do I install this on?

You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.

You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.

What to do with pairs that look like USDJPYi or EURUSD.HKT?

In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.

So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i

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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.

Just simply type and press enter.

The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.

If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.

I actually had to do this myself, and it works.

Does this work on MAC?

Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.

This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪

Why was it written?

The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂

Who is this for?

VIP members only who are serious about trading.

What does it cost?

Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.

How do I get it?

Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.

Why do I have to be a VIP to get the software?

The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.

Who is responsible if I lose money?

You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.

Will I get rich with this?

No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.  

How are Results Reported?

Currently, we report results based on the best conditions of a single position.

Which is why, we recommend opening 1 position at a time, and managing the trade to the best of your ability.

If a trade hits SL it is triggered at -1%.

If a trade hits TP1 it is reported at +1%.

If a trade hits TP2 only TP2 is reported, so 2-3%, whatever the TP2 is.

So, if a trade hits TP2 and the TP2 is 3%, we don’t claim the trade won +4%, the same way we don’t claim -2% if we hit a SL.

I do believe this is the best way of reporting because it is in line with how the majority of our clients use our signals, and with proper trade management, these are the best possible results.


1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly

Solve problems

1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly

If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)

The Main Trading Strategy Used in VIP

If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.

I look forward to growing your accounts!

Much love.


  1. Just a heads up, the trade copier is not getting me into trades this week and everything is open and working correctly on my end. I’m getting errors in the copier such as “ERROR:telethon.client.updates:Undhandled exception on my_event_handler” and “IndexError: list index out of range”. Hope that helps.

  2. Pat I’m having some issues trying to get the copier for both channels working, could you please let me know how to have both open at the same time for the copier

  3. Hey Pat, just joined the gold vip, already in the forex. Where can I find the install instructions for the gold copier?

  4. Is it also copy future orders such as sell stop ect’ ?
    Or it place the order at mt4 only if the order is triggered?

  5. Hello Pat,

    I am already a member of the TWP VIP and I just join GOLD. Does the VIP Copier also work for GOLD? In other words, are there two copiers or just one.?

    Thanks for the opportunity! You’re on point and a straight PRO!


  6. So i just want to be 100% sure. Once everything is installed the copier will make the trade for us and close as well if we hit TP. We dont have to manually enter and close ourselves correct?

  7. Hello,

    What leverage should I use for a live account at hankotrade ?


  8. Hello Pat! I would Just like to ask how to use the Copy Trading Bot in MT5, can I have atleast a guide to use. Since the video uploaded above for the tutorial leans towards to mt4 more. thank you!

  9. Hello Pat, Pat do you teach or mentoring? I want to learn to trade like your vip, for me, I am as beginner your trades are amazing, if you open mentoring let me know Pat, thank u

  10. Hello Pat, I’m pretty new to the tech involved, I’ve been trading for a couple of months and I already have MT4, I’ve signed up with hankotrade, I’ve got all this on my iPhone and i haven’t got a laptop, what do I do next to get up and running and get my MT4 hooked up to the copy trader. Just want to get up and running with regards to the copy trader. Thanks

  11. Hi Pat! I am having issues with your copy trader on MT5, everything else works but when you delete a trade setup the EA does not delete it, could be a bug or something on my end but all in all I am glad to have joined your VIP room. 🙂

  12. Hello, i have setup the Copy Trader but i’m not getting anytrades since 2 days already.
    I’m seeing you are sending signals on the TG channel.

    Telegram_connector have the following error:

    ERROR:telethon.client.updates:Unhandled exception on my_event_handler…
    When signal are coming it give also errors…

    Is there somewhere where i can past all errors since the copy/past here is disable?

  13. Hello,
    does the telegram connector have to be installed on a Mac OS? Because after downloading the package it’s not possible to run the Telegram_Connector_v1_01.exe file

  14. Hey,

    Is there an option to delay the trade by a couple of seconds as some prop forms are strict about trade copying.

    • There is not a delay. Just talk with them beforehand. If you are a profitable trader yourself, or through copying and using signal providers, I don’t see why it would matter. Shouldn’t prop firms just want profitable traders?

  15. Hello,

    Can you please give me the current pair list so i can map it with mine Metatrader pairs?
    Mine pairs have p at the end can i add prefix for this?

  16. Hi Pat
    Many Thanks for providing this opportunity.

    I wanted to ask if I understood it right:

    1. for example i drag the chart USD/EUR (it doesn’t matter right?)
    2. i drag the TWP Copier to the chart (Auto-Trading is on)
    3. i put the settings for the expert (TP1 etc.)
    4. everything works -> 🙂

    Now i have only 2 questions:

    1. what means “symbols mapping” GOLD: USDXAU ? (can I leave that or do I have to type in something different? Does it refer to the chart for example USD/EUR?)
    2. is it possible that the telegram connector (and I see that) receives signal but i can’t see it in the MT4 history? (did i forgot something?)

    Thank you for your help!

  17. Is there a specialist that can help, a 3rd party I would pay to figure out why it is not working? Do I need somebody that codes or a person who specializes in networks as Hankotrade cannot diagnose or understand what all the errors and strange syntax means on the journal in mt4. They tell me to reload the platform 10+ times or redo password 5+ times that does not fix it.

    I have loaded as per instructions 15+ times. Copy trade function intermittently works. I have had the program work then stops working. I have had Hankotrade receive the trade details and open the wrong stop loss levels. Currently no matter what I do the mt4 does not receive the trades. Just went through the entire procedure for reload last night followed every detail of the video and the written details on this vip page. MT4 never received the signal that was transmitted to my open telegram channel that was connected to vip channel, mt4 open and have the smile face.

    I believe Pat when he says follow the procedure and it will fix any errors but something is at play that is stopping the signal from getting to mt4 correctly and consistently. I even shut down my firewall on windows that was not it.

  18. New here so I am going to see what happens now that I believe I am configured with the copier.

    The instructions for the copier are slanted to users of MT4, but I am on MT5.

    I assumed the same should be followed for MT5 so I did so. I realize it is a pain but can you revise the instructions so that they apply to MT5 too?

  19. Is the link the telegram file for 64bit only? My computer does not allow me to open it

  20. Hey all, I signed up for VIP and followed instruction exactly for MT4. I am running on a server.

    I recieved my first few signals today but received these errors below for ever signal:

    “ERROR:telethon.client.updates:Unhandled exception on ny-event-handler”

    “IndexError: list index out of range”

    I have rebooted MT4, my server, made sure symbols are mapped, smile face is on chart, made sure the copier has exact file names and in correct place, etc.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  21. hello !

    How do I set lot size in the copier ?

    thanks for the awesome job

  22. EA not working despite the smiley face.

  23. Morning Pat,
    I just received some errors in telegram connector – IndexError: List index out of range
    What is the fix if any?

  24. Do we have a Mac File telegram connector ?
    The one I have in the files I think is PC. not connecting to the EA

  25. Hello Pat, I see you in the TWP VIP room that you are forwarding from Forex Robot Nation VIP. Am I in the wrong one if so how do I access the Forex Robot Nation VIP channel? Thanks much

  26. How do I know if there’s a bad message format? I have installed the softare according to the videos and signals still don’t arrive to mt4. I checked the blinker on telegramtomt4 and that’s working and i have the smile face. I do receive the message to the telegram and I’m only risking 1% of the account. which is correct for the phone number?
    +1-234-456-7890 example
    +12344567890 no spaces

  27. the EA is not inside the file , i downloaded it 5 times and still no EA inside but everything else is inside, could you please check Pat

  28. is it avalible to mt5 yet and if it dose the same way to mt4 ?

  29. What’s going on Pat!

    Just wondering would it be possible to have SL in pips included in the VIP signals?

    Also from the strategies you post, which one would you say is the strategy that’s closest to what you use to send out signals?

  30. hi the ea is missing from the download file?

  31. How many broker accounts can I use on the monthly VIP membership?

  32. For trades that should be executed. Been having intermittent trade failure executions, trades would be received by platform but not executed. Some days a trade would be executed and another would not. After multiple reloads of the program and platform I realized the cause of the failures was the multiplier I chose on the platform. Changed from 20 to 200 and expect this change in the platform settings to fix my trading execution problems.

  33. hey pat, i noticed lately that when you post delete command in telegram it doesnt remober the orders from the mt5

  34. how to fix ea saying indexerror: list index out of range

  35. Any guide on how to install EA on Mac? I can’t seem to find any.

  36. I found the MAC instructions PDF however there’s nothing in the Experts file that says “EA” only the 2 TWP VIP files for MT4 and MT5. Not sure where to go from here.

  37. Hey Pat,

    I got the copytrader work on mt4 but have tried everything to run it on mt5 but its not working there have tried everything follow the instructions exactly how you explain but it doesnt execute the trades. hope you can help me out with it

    (i drive it on the same computer is that maybe a possible that the cmd is working on 1 computer ? 2 cmd and copying is that possible ?)

    Kind regard Romano Spa Much love

    • HI Romano, if it’s working on MT4, can you not use it on MT4 and avoid MT5?

      • Hi Pat,

        On MT4 it works fine!, i run them on same computer but with different accounts thats why i use MT4 and MT5, MT5 interface looks and works much better 🙂

        But MT5 i have try anything on it but it doesnt work on the computer maybe a bug or something in the software maybe you can look to the exe. file for MT5 then i hope it wil be solved and works in MT5 properly in the future 😀

        Have a nice weekend MUCH LOVE!

  38. Hello , can I get your email when I can ask question? Thanks

  39. Is the graduation cap on the chart supposed to be blue or white if it’s on?

  40. Hey, I just joined the VIP group and after installing the robot yesterday I noticed this morning that it didn’t connect to my MT4 account even though I have th “smiling face” and everything opened as explained do you have any clue of the source of this problem ?

  41. Is copy trading can make you trade multiple pair?, and how?

  42. hello, everythung is fine?
    I followed the step by step and it is receiving the signals in the script the telegram, but it is not opening the orders in mt4. would you help me?

  43. Hello

    Can we use botty for copy automaticlately the signal ?

    Thanks you

  44. HI, the TRAILING STOP PIPS is not entirely clear, or does not work correctly, or i need to know which is the correct configuration. I have folloed all the steps that you show in your video but i cannot get the bot to follow the rise or fall of the market with your entries.
    Taking the input as an example
    GBP/USD on Agust 10, i could not follow the market fall, i only take the TP1 and my operation was closed.
    Is there anything i cand do?

  45. Hello Pat
    Im getting s error on auto copy
    Connecting failed timeout error
    I fallow the instruction many times but didn’t work,
    This happen since a get the access to the VIP
    And I need to trade manually,

    • Try the FAQ recommendations..

      1. Re-install it.
      2. If using MT5, try MT4
      3. Make sure files are in the right places, and all programs are open. Telegram, The Copier, and Metatrader need to all be open at all times.
      4. Windows update.
      5. Try a different PC to see if your current PC or VPS is causing the issue.
      6. Make sure you have the correct room selected
      7.Check the FAQ for more suggestions!

  46. Last trade GBP/CHF got cancelled? I traded with the autocopier in MT4 and it took the 1% to stop loss. For me it’s not cancelled. How does this happen?

  47. What a week…
    4 trades: 2 stop loss 2 break even.
    I am with you since 3 weeks and only lost money.
    Pat, is there any hope it gets better?

    • Hi Michael, last month +10%, month before that +6%. That’s +16%. We’ve been doing this for YEARS. Impatient traders will leave after a bad week, and then miss a couple +6% weeks in a row. We have hundreds of lifetime members now, because the long term members do well.

  48. The copier had worked fine for several months, but now all of a sudden it’s giving me errors, such as

    Unhandled exception on my_event_handler
    IndexError: list index out of range

    Is anybody else experiencing the same issue?

  49. HI I am trying to figure out the optimum settings to update. I know its down to risk tolerance but can someone help with general settings for that?

  50. Hello, I don’t understand about BE. Do I have to config something ? In the video you talk about 10 pips BE ?
    If I don’t do it will never be break even ? Or when it reach TP it does BE automatically ? Thanks

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