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Free Trade Copier

You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.

Updated 10/30/2023

By downloading the TWP VIP Free Trade Copier, you agree to the terms of service & disclaimer.

There best was to take profit in 2024 is by opening 1 trade at a time, and managing that yourself when possible.

You can set TP1 only, or TP2 only and then manage that trade as it goes.

I don’t recommend opening 2 positions, 1 for each take profit level. I find this method unprofitable.

Every trader is different, so how you like to use our signals, will be different from other traders. Find what works for you, and profit with us!

If you have any issues with the Copier I suggest moving to the MT4 version, as that’s the version that I use.

The best way to use the signals is opening 1 position at a time, and being involved in the process completely. Your ability to let trades ride, cut trades short, set break evens properly is going to give you the BEST possible result.

NEW: Select Channel! (works for GOLD as well)

Watch these videos to learn how the copy trader works.

Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)

Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!

What is the Forex Robot Nation Trade Copier?

The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.

How does it work?

VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.

Does this need to be left open?

Yes. Everything needs to be open!

MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.

You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.

Required GOLD Setting Change

If trading GOLD in the GOLD room, you will want to set your PIP TOLERANCE to 20.

I entered the wrong Phone Number, what do I do?

Just double click on the account file in the same folder as the Telegram_Connector.

You can enter the correct phone number, like if you forgot to put a +1 or something.

What If I can’t leave my computer on?

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.

But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.

These are the two VPS companies I use:

Worldwide Clients:

United States Clients:

A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.

Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.

When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.

TelegramToMT4 Requirement

It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.

This is no longer the case always (we have reports that it can work without a blinking cursor)

TelegramToMT4 Crashing

One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.

After he did this, it stopped crashing.

How to use only TP1 or only TP2?

If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.

In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.

Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.

The best way to use the signals is opening 1 position at a time, and being involved in the process completely. Your ability to let trades ride, cut trades short, set break evens properly is going to give you the BEST possible result.
Why is Forex Robot Nation Copier showing a sad face or generally not working :(?

Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.

You need to allow autotrading / live trading.

Go to Tools > Options

Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading

Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties

Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading

This will resolve the sad face issue.

How many charts do I install this on?

You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.

You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.

What to do with pairs that look like USDJPYi or EURUSD.HKT?

In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.

So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i

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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.

Just simply type and press enter.

The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.

If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.

I actually had to do this myself, and it works.

Does this work on MAC?

Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.

This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪

Why was it written?

The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂

Who is this for?

VIP members only who are serious about trading.

What does it cost?

Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.

How do I get it?

Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.

Why do I have to be a VIP to get the software?

The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.

Who is responsible if I lose money?

You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.

Will I get rich with this?

No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.  

How are Results Reported?

Currently, we report results based on the best conditions of a single position.

Which is why, we recommend opening 1 position at a time, and managing the trade to the best of your ability.

If a trade hits SL it is triggered at -1%.

If a trade hits TP1 it is reported at +1%.

If a trade hits TP2 only TP2 is reported, so 2-3%, whatever the TP2 is.

So, if a trade hits TP2 and the TP2 is 3%, we don’t claim the trade won +4%, the same way we don’t claim -2% if we hit a SL.

I do believe this is the best way of reporting because it is in line with how the majority of our clients use our signals, and with proper trade management, these are the best possible results.


1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly

Solve problems

1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly

If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)

The Main Trading Strategy Used in VIP

If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.

I look forward to growing your accounts!

Much love.


  1. MT5 signal is not executing error code below. Please fix

    Received trade signal from : TWP VIP (Received: 2024.04.24 02:49:01)
    ERROR: telethon.client: Unhandled exception on my_event_handler
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File “telethon\client\” line 543 in _dispatch_update
    File “”, line 357, in my_event_handler
    File “”. line 75, in Global_Open
    IndexError: list index out of range

  2. Hello Pat,

    Quick question. I just bought VIP rooms for the Gold trading, and I subscribed for a month after which I got frustrated with the setup instructions and canceled since my questions keep getting deleted. How do I find the ‘Forex-Copy-Trader-FRN-1.0’ file? Do I need to download mt4 through the US VIP link provided or how do I set this up? Thanks – Please don’t delete my question and help me out!

  3. ali montazer hussanii

    HEY PAT hope ur fine

    Do we need to change any setup for Ovemide mode..?


  4. Hello, just one question, I bought VIP rooms and I’m using a few MT4/5, do I need to run telegram connector for each of them? or one for all?

  5. Hi. I just joined today for the combo FX and Gold. Do I need 2 charts or 1 Chart?
    I am with Fyntura Broker.
    I have 1 chart

    Channel Name: TWP VIP
    PIP Tolerance: 20

    Is the setting correct? Does it trade all Forex symbols? If not, what should be my Symbols list?


  6. He pat I have one question in the MT4 what lot size do i but for every trade?

  7. ‪Hamza Abdo‬‏

    Do the recommendations work on the MT5 program on the phone?

  8. Hi, I tried to make it work, I have the smile face on the chart, but I have a problem with the signal. I receive this warning: closed the connection:[WinError 64] The specified network name is no longer available.
    This is the third time I try, and I have the same problem.

  9. Hi, I have sent an email and don’t know how long this is going to take.

    In the Trade Copier download I can’t access the file with the setup instructions for Mac. There’s no application on my Mac to open the .ps file. How can I add the EA to my MT4 account if I’m using a Mac

  10. Herbie Brender à Brandis

    Hello! I’m new here, all seems to work nicely on my VPS. Telegram signals picked up by MT4.
    I have two chart windows open with your EA. One for gold and one for the other pairs.
    You advice to set the pips tolerance to 20 for gold.
    In the other chart window the pips tolerance is at default value of 1.
    Is this the right way the let things work well?
    Thanks in advance!

  11. Hello. I’m a new member of your VIP group. So, in your video you told there is a PDF available with information/instructions. Is it still available and where can I find that? Thank you!

  12. I can’t make the bot work. It doesn’t receive the signals and I did everything the video. I don’t know what to do. In meta trader nothing is happening and I also trading is active and everything should be correct

  13. Hey guys! So the copier is working good, but when I use an account with suffix (.i) it only opens trades with from the chart that’s currently with the smiley face. It won’t open trades with all other pairs.


    When I tried it on an account not using suffix, it opens all trades.

    With the suffix it only work on the page that is currently with the smile.

  14. Telegram connector doesn’t work in MacOS, what can I do about that??

  15. Hi Pat!

    How can I get the EA working in different accounts? Do I need a VPS with several desktops or is it possible by using the same MT5 in one desktop with different accounts.


  16. Hi, I’ve have the forex signals set up and working well, now I’ve just bought the gold subscription too, do I need to change any of the settings, like the channel name or anything? Thanks!

    • Yes. Please see information on this page. Need to install on another chart, and select gold channel in the ea settings.

      • Do I need to open a different account for different bot? Am I able to install multiple bot on the same account?

        On my chart, do I need different pair on different charts in order to make 2 bot work at the same time? (Can I use same pair and different charts?)

        • You put the copier on 2 charts, 1 you select gold, 1 you select FX, this is shown on this page with images.

          • how to put the copier on 2 charts? just drag the copier on 2 charts you want?

            in channel name it has 3 options, twp gold, twp vip and forex robot nation vip. what’s forex robot nation vip?

  17. Can we use this bot for mt5

  18. There is a bug in the copier. Every time you move a Take Profit position in Telegram, the copier will move not only the TP1 but also the TP. The result is that TP2 will be the same as TP1.

    • HI CP, I’m not having this happen in any of my trades. Make sure you’re using the latest version, and that you have different magic numbers if you have multiple charts open.

      • In the telegram VIP Group you said “Some people using the copier has seen that the position for TP2 has been close at the same time as the TP1. We wanted to close jut the TP1 and leaving the TP2 open. However, there is an issue from the copier that we are working on to fix this problem.”

        I have had this issue ever since I subscribed with TWP.

  19. Is there history for this service?

  20. Hi Pat,

    Every time I drag the copier into a chart I see the default settings again. Is this normal?

    Thank you!

  21. Do I need to modify the suffix for ThinkMarkets broker or leave it in blank?

    Furthermore, for the gold EA, Gold symbol on this broker is XAUUSDx ending with an x so I understand I need also to add an x on the symbols mapping. Is this correct?


  22. Hey guys! Copier and signals are amazing! Question:

    Is there a way to get the copier to make the trades with the .I ?

    For example if the signal comes for GBPAUD that it opes a trade with GBPAUD.i ?

  23. Can somebody help me personally with the trade copier for MacOS? I installed everything perfectly, but it does not copy the trades automatically.

  24. Hi, do I need to change the suffix from .HKT to something new since we switched to Fyntura?

  25. I have a membership for regular vip & gold vip. I dont see a download link for the regular vip copier. the link above only downloads the gold’s vip copier. is it a different program? or are they both the same program??

  26. I dont get it to work on Meta Trader 5
    What can i do Pat 😅

  27. Hi
    I am having issue copy the signal, my Telegram is open.
    Telegram_Connector is open.
    MT4 EA is nicely set.
    but it does not copy trade.

      • Ali montazer Hussaini

        hey pat
        do we need to download the telegram and leave it open on ops OR just the telegram connector has to be open
        I use VPS and the telegram connector is open the signal comes but doesn’t take any trade

    • Hi I have set up everything perfectly and everything is working and I’m seeing the smile on the mt4 and the binning cursor on the telegram to mt4… I’m receiving the trade signal and seeing it on the telegram to mt4 but nothing is happening on my mt4… There no trades placed … I get a message “IndexError: List index out of range” what does that mean?

      I have been trying to resolve this issue for 3 months now please help me I even just bought a VPS to try that still same issue the trades come through but don’t place on the account

  28. When I click on TelegramToMT4 .exe file, it does not open. If it opens after some time then it will close after some time.

  29. why doesnt the copier work for mac OS ?, it wont let me copy and paste

  30. Do this work on mobile?

  31. Is the copier working with avatrade?
    They have no suffix.

  32. Hi Patrick,

    my Symbol is “GOLD#” … so i added the prefix “#”
    Do I have to change anything in the symbol mapping field in the Copier?

    Best Regards

  33. Will the trade copier continue to work with Hankotrade even though they are migrating away from MT4/MT5?

  34. I am using IC Market Broker which no suffix for Gold. My TWP copier received the signal today but cant see this order. I also checked expert log, which also have no XAUUSD input. How can I fix it?

  35. I have followed this guide to setup the EA on my MT4, but the today’s signal was completely ignored. The Telegram Connector is showing only ‘Connected to Telegram’ but nothing else appeared after the signal. Can you help me?

  36. Has anyone managed to fix the problem with the copier not working for them? I have been trying for almost a month now and can’t fix the problem.



  37. Hello Patrick, I am subscribed to both GOLD and FX Channels. Your EA includes only symbol mappings for gold and oil but I can’t find mappings for all the forex cross. Can you help me handle that?.

  38. For a raw account i got + Pairs XAUUSD+, need i put in suffix + ?

  39. hi guys,i did everything good but the copier didnt work. Got the signal on my telegram copier but didnt went throug to my mt 5. Is that the problem maybe ,that im not on mt 4?

  40. Hey guys! In Mac, I can’t copy and paste the files from inside MT4 Data Folder thing. Ideas? I also tried with a VPS and was able to move the files, but the trades aren’t opening with the copier.

    When I put the “copier” inside of “Files” of MQ4…. Do I just put in the TelegramMT4 folder? or the files directly on the folder “files” ….?

    Hope the questions make sense. Thank you!

  41. I am not getting trade on my mt4. I followed all directions

  42. Does the + sign still required in the phone no.?

  43. Hi Pat and team,

    Just wanted to say a big thank you to you and team for an excellent channel and sweet training and education.

    Amazing work guys!!!

  44. hi, my robot copy trader doesn’t function and I think the issue is on the TelegramToMt4 Connector… the error is: “WARNINING: security error while unpacking a reicevd message: too many message had to be ignored consecutively”. I Have received the error several times. How can I resolve it? Thanks

  45. Hey pat, you send multiple currency pair signals on fx vip in the copy trading should i all pairs charts open in mt4 for copy trading ?

  46. Hello,
    In the channel name which one should I choose: forex robot nation VIP or TWP VIP

  47. Hi Pat,

    It would be super nice to ask someone to fix the issue of the telegram connector for mac (i.e., creating a file for mac) you will get plenty of net subscriptions to the channel since many people are using a mac.


  48. what can i do if the deals don’t copy?
    The cursor is not blinking in the telegram software. Can this affect it? i have not found information on how to fix it

  49. Why is your XAUUSD.HKT signals with three decimals and my XAUUSD.HKT only two? Think it is messing with my gold trade copier?

  50. Hi Pat,

    I am new and just saw the first signal come through for the Gold Room. However, it looks like it didn’t get placed on my MT4.

    I have the smiling face in the upper right corner for TWP Copier, saw the signal in my connector which I have since restarted and says “Connected to Telegram”, set my Pip tolerance to 20, Risk Factor TP 1 to 1.0, Risk Factor TP 2 to 1.0 and left the other settings on default including lot size as 0 for dynamic. I also confirmed that the chart is for XAUUSD and it has no suffix.

    Is there something else I can check?



    • Hi Dante do you have two decimals or 3 decimals on your XAUUSD?
      Strugling with the same problem, my only difference is that my Market Watch and Pat’s signals has 1 Decimal difference?

    • Hi,

      Actually, you can ignore my post above. I figured out I did not have Gold selected for the channel setting.



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