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Free Trade Copier

You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.

Updated 7/20/2022

I find the best way to use the Trade Copier is to focus on TP1, putting most if not all your risk here.

This keeps your win rate high, and your overall return stable.

Setting Recommendation:

Lots TP1: 0
Lots TP2: -1 (this means it won’t open a TP2 trade)
Risk TP1: 1
Risk TP2: .5

This setting is for beginners, it opens 1 trade at 1% of the account size, and a second trade at .5% of the account size that aims for the TP2 (second profit target).

Watch these videos to learn how the copy trader works.

Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)

Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!

What is the Forex Robot Nation Trade Copier?

The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.

How does it work?

VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.

Does this need to be left open?


MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.

You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.

What If I can’t leave my computer on?

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.

But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.

These are the two VPS companies I use:

Worldwide Clients:

United States Clients:

A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.

Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.

When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.

TelegramToMT4 Requirement

It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.

This is no longer the case always (we have reports that it can work without a blinking cursor)

TelegramToMT4 Crashing

One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.

After he did this, it stopped crashing.

How to use only TP1 or only TP2?

If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.

In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.

Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.

Why is Forex Robot Nation Copier showing a sad face or generally not working :(?

Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.

You need to allow autotrading / live trading.

Go to Tools > Options

Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading

Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties

Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading

This will resolve the sad face issue.

How many charts do I install this on?

You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.

You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.

What to do with pairs that look like USDJPYi or EURUSD.HKT?

In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.

So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i

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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.

Just simply type and press enter.

The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.

If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.

I actually had to do this myself, and it works.

Does this work on MAC?

Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.

This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪

Why was it written?

The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂

Who is this for?

VIP members only who are serious about trading.

What does it cost?

Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.

How do I get it?

Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.

Why do I have to be a VIP to get the software?

The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.

Who is responsible if I lose money?

You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.

Will I get rich with this?

No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.  

How are Results Reported?

Currently, we report results based on the best conditions of a single position.

Our polling shows that over 70% of our clients trade 1 position at a time with our signals.

If a trade hits SL it is triggered at -1%.

If a trade hits TP1 it is reported at +1%.

If a trade hits TP2 only TP2 is reported, so 2-3%, whatever the TP2 is.

So, if a trade hits TP2 and the TP2 is 3%, we don’t claim the trade won +4%, the same way we don’t claim -2% if we hit a SL.

I do believe this is the best way of reporting because it is in line with how the majority of our clients use our signals.


1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly

Solve problems

1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly

If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 1)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 2)

If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.

I look forward to growing your accounts!

Much love.


  1. Hey Pat,
    Thanks for everything you and team are doing. I’ve sent a couple messages and none have been replied to. Looking to step up to Fury, but have a couple questions. Is this the best place?

  2. Hi, I have gone through all the steps several times, and everything should work. Telegram is connected, Trade Copier is set up, but still not recieving signals on MT5. Anything I can try?

  3. For the last two days, seeing a number of errors in the Telegram Window on receiving a trade (no changes, all working fine last week) so it no longer auto trades. MT5 and v1.01-3

    “Error:telethon.client.updates:Unhandled exception on my_event_handler” is the 1st line.

  4. Hi, I just got a signal in the Telegram connector (buy stop order) but I don’t see trade in my MT5 account. Any idea what can be wrong?

  5. Hi, I can see trades going to my telegram signal reader but not being executed on my MT4, any ideas why this is? I tried reinstalling, went over inputs and still can not figure it out.

  6. Hi, I see the trade signal in trade connector as a limit order but in MT4 didnt go through. Is it possible if I had trade opened for opposite direction it wont trigger the trade? Second question is the copier working even for demo account? Thanks

  7. GM, I am successfully using the trade copier on a Hanko Trade MT4 terminal (which access a small account). After a month of copying trades, I am very satisfied with the service and would like to begin copying trades on a larger account at Oanda.

    I have both MT4 accounts on the same PC, I have telegram running and I have FRN Trade copier running on both Hanko Trade and Oanda MT4 Terminals and charts for both brokerages show a happy face.

    When a trade signal comes through, copy trade picks it up and places the trade in the Hanko account but not in the Oanda Account.

    Here is my question: Is what I am trying to do permissible? If so, can you thing of any reason why the Oanda MT4 Terminal is not placing the trade? Hanko trade has been great but I would prefer not to put all of my money in with a single broker.

    Appreciate any assistance that you can provide.

  8. I have a problem with the lot sizing on the FRN copier EA. I have it set at a fixed 5%, TP1 and no TP2 yet sometimes it opens lot sizes of 3 lots other times like today on CHFJPY 0.69 lots. Can you explain this?
    How is the lot size in calculated cos it just seems random to me. I thought the idea was you risk 5% of your account if the trade hit SL?

    Much love

  9. Hey there this is so awqsome but I do have MT5 I cant be awake when u send the signals, Im VIP member telegram, but I do have MT5 so wondering when will available?? thankss

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