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Free Trade Copier

You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.

Updated 7/20/2022

I find the best way to use the Trade Copier is to focus on TP1, putting most if not all your risk here.

This keeps your win rate high, and your overall return stable.

Setting Recommendation:

Lots TP1: 0
Lots TP2: -1 (this means it won’t open a TP2 trade)
Risk TP1: 1
Risk TP2: .5

This setting is for beginners, it opens 1 trade at 1% of the account size, and a second trade at .5% of the account size that aims for the TP2 (second profit target).

Watch these videos to learn how the copy trader works.

Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)

Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!

What is the Forex Robot Nation Trade Copier?

The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.

How does it work?

VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.

Does this need to be left open?


MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.

You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.

What If I can’t leave my computer on?

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.

But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.

These are the two VPS companies I use:

Worldwide Clients:

United States Clients:

A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.

Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.

When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.

TelegramToMT4 Requirement

It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.

This is no longer the case always (we have reports that it can work without a blinking cursor)

TelegramToMT4 Crashing

One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.

After he did this, it stopped crashing.

How to use only TP1 or only TP2?

If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.

In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.

Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.

Why is Forex Robot Nation Copier showing a sad face or generally not working :(?

Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.

You need to allow autotrading / live trading.

Go to Tools > Options

Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading

Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties

Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading

This will resolve the sad face issue.

How many charts do I install this on?

You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.

You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.

What to do with pairs that look like USDJPYi or EURUSD.HKT?

In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.

So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i

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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.

Just simply type and press enter.

The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.

If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.

I actually had to do this myself, and it works.

Does this work on MAC?

Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.

This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪

Why was it written?

The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂

Who is this for?

VIP members only who are serious about trading.

What does it cost?

Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.

How do I get it?

Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.

Why do I have to be a VIP to get the software?

The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.

Who is responsible if I lose money?

You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.

Will I get rich with this?

No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.  

How are Results Reported?

Currently, we report results based on the best conditions of a single position.

Our polling shows that over 70% of our clients trade 1 position at a time with our signals.

If a trade hits SL it is triggered at -1%.

If a trade hits TP1 it is reported at +1%.

If a trade hits TP2 only TP2 is reported, so 2-3%, whatever the TP2 is.

So, if a trade hits TP2 and the TP2 is 3%, we don’t claim the trade won +4%, the same way we don’t claim -2% if we hit a SL.

I do believe this is the best way of reporting because it is in line with how the majority of our clients use our signals.


1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly

Solve problems

1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly

If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 1)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 2)

If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.

I look forward to growing your accounts!

Much love.


  1. If Copier isn’t working for you, try the MT4 version, instead of the MT5 version.

    This is another option as a potential fix.

  2. Hi,

    1/How to allow multiple trades with the robot?
    2/ For risk management 10% is 0.1 or 10 in the settings?

  3. I have a smiley face on mt4, telegram connector seems to be working but the signals are not reaching mt4

  4. Hi, somehow my Comment has been deleted why?

    I have an important question regarding the signals, what is the best way to get in contact with you?

    Thank you

    • Nothing was deleted, I see the last comment. You can email me through the website.

    • The robot copier doesn’t seem to be working as a lot of people are having the same issues, I have followed the guide, smiley face on mT4, signal showing up on the telegram prompt but no trade being opened.

      Does it make a difference if I’m testing on a demo?

  5. I got the same problem as Lence, the two last trades of the week (Thursday and Friday) showed up in the telegram connector, but not in mt4, the EA shows the smiley face and the spread was 0. Any clue on what could be the issue?

  6. Not getting code from terminal

  7. I am having trouble with the trade copier. The trades are showing up on the command line terminal but not in MT4. I have the EA on a chart, Auto trading enabled. Nothing showing up in EA tab as far as trades being attempted to come in. A smile face is on for the EA. I’m stuck. Anything else I can check to see why this is happening?

  8. Can I download it in Colmex plus broker’s platform?

  9. I can’t get the code after entering my phone Number

  10. Hello
    Today i see the entry in the dos command prompt and in telegram but it didnt open on mt4, any clue?

    Thank you

  11. Hello
    i see today trade EUR/CHF has been triggered, i see on the dos command prompt but not open the trade on the MT4 what could be the cause? telegram work fine even in the prompt

  12. could you tell me how to change the lot size in the copy trader. It’s placed a trade this morning but the lot size is far to high for my account?

  13. Hi, the copy trader is adding trades perfectly but when trades are deleted manually in telegram the EA does not delete the trade in MT5

  14. Hi,

    I’ve just loaded up the copy trading file, in the suffix section do you need to add HKT even if your using a different broker?


  15. After two weeks of trying various combinations of solutions involving Mac, Windows 10, Suffix, VPS, MT4, MT5 I finally got it to work. I think the issue was that the EA was not getting the telegram message. I am not entirely sure of this but here is what worked for me.

    My setup:
    OS: Mac (im pretty sure this will work for Windows 10 as well)
    Platform: MT5 (I could not get this to work using MT4 using the same config)
    Account: Hankotrade-Demo

    General Instructions:
    1. Download and install MT5 from Hankotrade site. Connect MT5 to your Hankotrade account.
    2. Follow Pat’s instructions to install EA and TelegramToMT4. You do NOT have to rename anything to MT5!
    – make sure you leave TelegramToMT4 running!
    3. Download telegram app for Mac, login, and leave it running (not 100% sure it needs to be running)
    4. In MT5, Click the “Algo Trading” button (enabling it)
    5. In MT5, under the Navigator window, Under Accounts, right click your account and Login. It should turn Bold
    6. In MT5, drag a symbol to the main window
    7. Drag the EA copier to the chart
    8. Make sure you add the suffix for your broker is added to the setting for the input (“.HKT” for me without quotes.
    9. Click Ok. (MT5 Only!). Yes the window will close however it’s still attached to the chart.

    At this point, you should see “Forex Robot Nation Copier vXXX MT5” AND a blue graduation cap icon in the upper right hand corner of the chart. Additionally, you under your account, you will see the EA under your account number on the left hand side Navigator.

    In my case, I have this structure:
    Accounts –> Hankotrade-Demo –> 8675309: Mateo –> Forex Robot Nation Coper v1_x

    Leave telegram, TelegramToMT4, and MT5 running and it should start taking the next trade. Fingers crossed.

    I hope this helps someone out.

  16. I don’t know if it’s m suffix but am getting the signals in the telegram to my4 promp but nth is showing up in mt4 it’s self

    Am doing a funded challenge and I don’t know where to find me suffix can anyone help me get tru this …

  17. Can this work on challenges?

  18. So for the suffix I need to put i since am not with .HKT ?

    • HI Kashane, put whatever your suffix is.

      • Hi pat sorry but I don’t know what my suffix is am on a challenge and I don’t know where to fine it in mu mt4 am new to the platform the challenge broke is true forex funds any suggestions please and thanks

      • I am a bit worried about the scalping trades as the Stoploss and Entrys Pending Orders are so tight and the price quites can differ between brokers, so it is really Broker sensibel. What broker do you use with what spreads?

        Lately there has been sent an eurusd buy limit order and while you notificated us that it was filled it wasnt on my side.. I use IcMarkets so I have really tight spreads but still it did not open at that time because of 0,4 pips. How to resolve this matter? And also what happends with the open pending orders on my side in such cases while your trade is open and lets say closed with TP? Will it cancel or stay open?

        Thank you

  19. Do I just joined the vip room an followed all the instruction but no Oder seems to be going tru

    Am with a prop firm true forex funds do I need to get suffix is that the issue cause I didn’t add on

  20. do i really need to get a VPS or its an option?

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