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Free Trade Copier

You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.

Updated 10/30/2023

There are 3 ways to take profit in 2023, so the trades I get, are the trades you get. We win together.

  1. You can use TP1 only, this is how to get a higher win rate.
  2. You can use TP2 only, this is a lower rin rate.
  3. You can use TP1 & TP2 with half risk on each, this way is growing in popularity recently.

Every trader is different, so how you like to use our signals, will be different from other traders. Find what works for you, and profit with us!

If you have any issues with the Copier I suggest moving to the MT4 version, as that’s the version that I use.

NEW: Select Channel! (works for GOLD as well)

Watch these videos to learn how the copy trader works.

Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)

Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!

What is the Forex Robot Nation Trade Copier?

The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.

How does it work?

VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.

Does this need to be left open?

Yes. Everything needs to be open!

MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.

You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.

Required GOLD Setting Change

If trading GOLD in the GOLD room, you will want to set your PIP TOLERANCE to 20.

I entered the wrong Phone Number, what do I do?

Just double click on the account file in the same folder as the Telegram_Connector.

You can enter the correct phone number, like if you forgot to put a +1 or something.

What If I can’t leave my computer on?

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.

But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.

These are the two VPS companies I use:

Worldwide Clients:

United States Clients:

A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.

Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.

When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.

TelegramToMT4 Requirement

It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.

This is no longer the case always (we have reports that it can work without a blinking cursor)

TelegramToMT4 Crashing

One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.

After he did this, it stopped crashing.

How to use only TP1 or only TP2?

If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.

In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.

Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.

Why is Forex Robot Nation Copier showing a sad face or generally not working :(?

Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.

You need to allow autotrading / live trading.

Go to Tools > Options

Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading

Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties

Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading

This will resolve the sad face issue.

How many charts do I install this on?

You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.

You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.

What to do with pairs that look like USDJPYi or EURUSD.HKT?

In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.

So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i

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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.

Just simply type and press enter.

The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.

If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.

I actually had to do this myself, and it works.

Does this work on MAC?

Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.

This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪

Why was it written?

The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂

Who is this for?

VIP members only who are serious about trading.

What does it cost?

Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.

How do I get it?

Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.

Why do I have to be a VIP to get the software?

The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.

Who is responsible if I lose money?

You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.

Will I get rich with this?

No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.  

How are Results Reported?

Currently, we report results based on the best conditions of a single position.

If a trade hits SL it is triggered at -1%.

If a trade hits TP1 it is reported at +1%.

If a trade hits TP2 only TP2 is reported, so 2-3%, whatever the TP2 is.

So, if a trade hits TP2 and the TP2 is 3%, we don’t claim the trade won +4%, the same way we don’t claim -2% if we hit a SL.

I do believe this is the best way of reporting because it is in line with how the majority of our clients use our signals.


1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly

Solve problems

1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly

If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 1)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 2)

If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.

I look forward to growing your accounts!

Much love.


  1. Can you use the copytrader on pepperstone MT4 demo account?

  2. Hi pat

    I am using Exness broker

    What should be in symbol suffix

    I am receive signal in telegram bot

    But no trades placed in MT4

    I see my broker suffix symbol EURUSDz

    Pls suggest

  3. Hi Pat
    I have issue with copier. It doesnt read pending orders correctly on my end. It automaticly place a trade instead of setting a pending order. Any suggustion for this issue? Michal

  4. if we keep the laptop time to local time ( diffrent time than the Broker server time) , will the VIP signal execute the trade?

  5. Nevermind my last comment, looks like I had some other settings set like trailing stop loss. I just re put the chart back on so should be good now.

  6. hi Pat,
    The trades from the VIP channel are not getting executed on the mt4. i can see the signal details on the telegramtomt4 but not those are not executing i reinstalled the copy trader still it did not initate a trade as per the next signal…cursur is blinking anf i can see the smily face on themt4 platform…can u help

  7. Copier is receiving message but is not opening trades in MT4, auto trade is enabled, reinstalled, read all FAQs and comments
    this is the message I am getting
    “Received trade signal from Forex Robot Nation VIP……”. Please HELP.

  8. Hi Pat
    1. I see a smiling face and i also see the trade copied on to the TelegramtoMT4 but the trade did not execute on the mt4 today also pending trade is not visible on the mt4 platform. Yesterday , signal was working well, trade was executed and we hit the TP. Its confusing why its not working today.

    2. at present i have set the computer time to same as the hankotrade server time. Do i need to do this or am i allowed to keep my local time on my laptop ( hope that doesn’t stop the auto trading of signals if i do that. Thanks

  9. This version of the copier only works on Mt5, can you please add the Mt4 version. I trade on Mt4 and this copier doesn’t work on it only the Mt5, thanks

  10. Hi Pat i have installed the copy tradrer on my mt4 platform and gtot the smiley face so hopefuly thats ok. but the telegram file doesnt work, it accepts my number i put in the code that telegram sends me and then nothing happens. it says,

    Signred in successfuly as Anthony Heward.
    Telegram signal reader, waiting for message….
    Conected to telegram.

    not sure what to do. your help would be much appriciated.

  11. Hi, what password must one use? The connector doesn’t ask me for a password.

    Please help

  12. Sorry for the really basic question, but when using the copy trader how do we define the lot sizes that we are buying or selling?

    The recent trades that have been executed via the copy trader are only buying and selling in 0.01 – 0.05 sizes on my end.

    Thanks in advance,

  13. Ashley Le Poidevin

    Hey all,

    I havent been receiving any trades from the trade copier EA

    Question, once you link your telegram do previous signals appear on the black screen? Mine does say connected etc and cursor is blinking but nothing has copied over

    Any help will be much appreciated


  14. Not taking trades. im using coinexx. my symbols do not show a suffix, but on the video you put .HKT, do i need to remove it.

  15. Shanecka Faulcon (Mecca Phoenix)

    My cursor is blinking, my face is smiling, and my symbols are in the market watch section of my MT4 but my charts don’t pick up the trades sent out. I’m using HankoTrade so it’s not a pip spread issue… What am I doing wrong? I don’t want to waste my first month of having my bot because I can’t program it!

  16. Hello
    Do I need to be using the VPS FXVM? Or I could use other provider?

  17. Hello! I’m not receiving any trade on my copier! One question, My VPS uses WIndows Server. Does it work with it? or should I request another operational system?

  18. Hello, my EA is not functioning/taking trades. I went through all steps a couple times. It appears that my issue is that the connector will not allow me to enter a password. After typing in my number the command box disappeared, when trying to click on it – it loads up and then disappears. I have tried several times. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thank you

  19. Hi Pat! Do I have to change “TelegramtoMT4” to “TelegramtoMt5”? I’m using Mt5 because the 5 percenters only use Mt5 🙂

  20. Hello Patrick

    I have downloaded your copy trader but i use in Hankotrade the MQL 5 is that the same setup like the MQL 4??
    Or di i have to make a other account with a MQL 4??

  21. Jean Francois Leblanc

    hi, why my magic number is 1122 and on your video we see 1141…. i still have not been able to make a copy trading work, so i am looking on everything that could be the issue, so far, i have read and ear all of your video, everything seem’s to be enter the right way… still trying to find the problem

    • Try windows update, try on a different computer or VPS as well.

    • I’m also wondering about this, is my magic number supposed to be the same as Pat’s? I’m asking because my number is also 1122 instead of 1141. I’ve been having tons of problems with the copy trader, first it wouldn’t work on my VPN after i tried to set it up three different times. Eventually it began taking trades but it wasn’t going through when Pat put them in so i set it up on my regular desktop and it took 1 trade successfully but now i have error codes for no reason when i haven’t touched it since it made the initial trade

  22. Where is the copier for MT5?

  23. Do I need to have telegram app open to receive signals.. TelegramToMt4 is open and connected, broker has happy face but didn’t trigger the trade today.

    Only thing I can think of is not having Telegram app open on my VPS.

  24. Hi,

    When I set up the Robot Nation Copier onto a chart in MT4, the jounral initially days that it has loaded successfully, however around 5-10 minutes after this I receive an error:
    “initalizing of Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_01 MT5 (EURUSD,H1) failed with code 0 (symbol synchronization timeout)”

    A few seconds after this it removes it from the chart.

    Can I please get some assistance to resolve this issue?


  25. Hi Pat,

    The Copy Trader + Telegram2MT4 won’t work on mac because the Telegram2MT4 file is an exe, which is NOT executable on mac / linux systems.
    Are you planning to release a .dmg version for mac?

    Otherwise the only option is to install the whole MT4 with Copier and EAs on VPS or run a Parallel Software with Windows on Mac, but it’s a pain in the a**

    Let me know.

  26. hi Pat. i didn’t receive any code after i purchased your copy trading for 1 month. how to do this?

  27. Is there any way to get some support for the copy trader?
    I have everything setup correctly as far as I can tell, but the GF trade did not get placed today.

    • Hi Joe, everything I know about the copy trader is on this page. I’m not concealing any different tips or tricks, most traders will leave it running and it will start picking up trades eventually. If not, go through the troubleshooting on this page.

  28. Does the copy trader work if I run a VPN? I set everything up and seems to be working but the trades are not coming in to Hankotrade’s MT4. The cursor is blinking on the telegram connector, I added .HKT suffix on the copy traders settings, and the smiley face is in the upper right hand corner. It’s been up for a week+ and trades show up on the telegram connector- MT4 is just not executing them.

  29. Hi Pat everything is set up and trades are opening and closing correctly with correct SL and TP. I am using Hanko Broker. It opens all trades at .01 lots. I have $100K account and have the settings Risk Factor at Tp1 .5 and TP2 .5 I haven’t changed anything else accept added suffix. Any thoughts?

    Dynamic Lot Calc. SL points (risk 1= 1% if SL Hit)
    Split lot/risk 0
    Lots TP1 0
    Lots TP2 0
    Risk Factor TP1 .5
    Risk Factor Tp2 .5

  30. I set up the copy trader correctly I believe because it said it was connected and I put in a suffix of “-5”, per how my symbols are displaying on mt4 Market Watch. No pending trades or market trades have been placed. I got the following errors:

    “Received trade signal from: Forex Robot Nation VIP (Received: 2022:12.27 01:32:56)
    Error: telethon.client.updates:Unhandled exception on my_event_handler
    Traceback (most recent call last”:
    File “telethon\client\”, line 467, in _dispatch update
    File “”, line 302, in my_event_handler
    File “” line 65, in Global_Open
    IndexError: list index out of range
    Received trade signal from: Forex Robt Nation VIP (Received: 2022:12.28 02:24:27)
    MT4 signal: /open GBPUSD,SELL,0,1.20366,1.20153,1.20044,-1,1572219467 (Sent:2022.12.28 02:24:27)”

    How can I resolve this issue?

    • For anyone having the same issue as myself, I discovered that when I uninstalled and reinstalled both the telegram connector and the EA on my MT4 that it resolved the issue and I started getting trades to execute on my end. Hope this helps someone.

  31. Hello, when using icmarkets do I have to enter the sybol suffix into the copier?

  32. Can I use the copy trader in several accounts? Or just 1?

  33. whats the best pip tolerance for hankotrade

  34. HI, Can you explain the manual breakeven settings?
    Breakeven at TP1 %
    Breakeven at TP2 %

    These items do not appear to be in the EA Parameters pdf.


  35. Hello.

    I have installed the Trade copier on vps machine.
    I have done all I had to do, the telegram app is connected BUT the cursor is not blinking. It stays white and stable.
    Does it matter that I have metatrader 5 ?


  36. Hi Pat, I recently joined the VIP room. Is there a different channel for the crypto signals or is it posted in VIP room? Can I use the trade copier on the crypto pairs too? If so how do I attach the copier on KuCoin? Thanks

  37. Do I have to add other coins like gold to Symbols mapping, e.g. EURGBP?

  38. 1. on script blinking white cursor is on.
    2. All messages are passed correctly and visible on the script black window
    3. Copy Trading robot showing happy face
    4. All 28 pair charts are open on my MT4
    no trades are passed to MT4 chart whrn they show up on the script window
    Please give solution for me I am a VIP member on telegram
    Tell. Number +17475880868 telegram account name: Kevin G

  39. I recently tried to install telegram connector, i wrote my phone number, then typed the code i received from telegram, but once i was asked my password it didn’t work. I tryped enter and still didn’t work, and couldn’t type anymore… Also i don’t know what password i need to write..

    Can i get help so i can properly install the software??

  40. Hi,

    I keep getting this error “UserWarning: the session already had an authorized user so it did not login to the user account using the provided phone (it may not be using the user you expect)

    any idea how to fix this?

  41. First one i want to thank Pat for strategies on youtube videos wich is totally free, i”m just practicing for now one of the strategies and i want to master.. Today i join on VIP Group i hope we will grow together as a community and be able to quit our job.

  42. Hi,

    I configured the MT4 and Telegram connector a few days ago. The trades do get open and closed according to telegram signal. However, the lot size calculation is not correct. I follow your instructions for TP1 only, I set these settings:

    Dynamic lot calculation: SL points (risk 1 = risk 1% if SL hit)
    Split lot/risk equally (use TP1 field): false
    Lots TP1: 0
    Lots TP2: -1.0
    Risk TP1: 1.0
    Risk TP2: 0

    With these settings, the first win ( a few days ago), it only won about 0.7% of account balance. And then the few wins after that in the last few days were way lower, profit for each trade is only around 0.1% of account balance. Is there any other settings I need to check for this?


  43. Hi Pat, i have a mac computer and i follow the instructions to install copy trader, but from my mt4 it does not let me copy and paste files…can someone help me? i dont know if there is something blocked that does not let me copy and paste.

    • I have the same issue trouble installing the copy trader

      • take the folder with the files into desktop. From mt4 go to file – open data folder and choose my mac desktop and navigate to Forex robot folder. Open again another “open data folder” and then from one window to another by right click and copy / paste

  44. Hi, just to enquire.. will the cancelled signals in the group chat auto cancelled by the copier?

  45. Pat, from your data, what would produce a higher rate of return with your signals? A 2% risk TP1 or a 1% TP1 and .5% TP2? Thanks!

  46. Hi, I follow the instructions for MAC and copy the Experts and Files folder content into MetaTrader installation folder on MAC. The telegram connector however is a Windows .exe file which does not work in MAC. It is mentioned in this page that the this can be set up on MAC, how to I get the telegram connector to work? Do you have a MAC version for this file?

    At the moment, I can see the Forex Robot Nation EA appears in MetaTrader UI.

  47. The trade copier isn’t working.

  48. My lot size keeps multiplying after each of the recent losses. I have my risk factor parameter set to 0.5 % in the copy trader. how do I stop it from increasing it is trading above my risk that I set..

  49. I see there is an MT5 copy of the signal copy trader robot. Do I have to change any file or folder names to MT5? Like the folder – “TelegramtoMT4” change to MT5?
    thank you

  50. What’s happening with the free channel? It was hacked? I’m a VIP member and worried about this.

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