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Free Trade Copier

You can now copy all the VIP signals directly to your trading account.

Updated 7/20/2022

Watch this video to learn how the copy trader works.

Frequently Asked Questions (About Trade Copier)

Thanks to our VIP family member Mark R. 🏆 for writing the majority of the FAQ!

What is the Forex Robot Nation Trade Copier?

The Trade Copier is software that takes signals from the VIP member’s area and copies them to the member’s trading platform.

How does it work?

VIP members install two pieces of software on their Meta Trader 4 platform. First, they install a Telegram connector, currently named TelegramToMT4. Second, they install the Forex Robot Nation Copier v1_00 in the appropriate folder. Complete installation instructions are included with the software download.

Does this need to be left open?


MT4, The TelegramToMT4 & Telegram itself need to be open in order to receive trades. All of these programs can be minimized, and they will still work.

You need to be a VIP member in order to receive trades.

What If I can’t leave my computer on?

There is no reason to turn off a computer in 2022. They are built to be left on.

But, if you want a separate server for your copy trader, or your robots, you can pay monthly for a VPS.

These are the two VPS companies I use:

Worldwide Clients:

United States Clients:

A VPS is just a computer on a high speed network. You can connect to your VPS from your phone or your computer at anytime to change settings, monitor results etc. The server stays on 24/7.

Installing files to a VPS is very easy, you simply login to your VPS, then you will see a desktop just like your own. You will be able to open the web browser on the VPS, go to websites, download robots, copy traders and install them normally.

When getting a VPS, you just need to make sure it’s Windows. Start on one of the lower plans, you can always upgrade later if you want to add more robots / copy traders on your server.

TelegramToMT4 Requirement

It is important to see a blinking cursor inside of TelegramToMT4, if you do not see this blinking cursor, it means that TelegramToMT4 is PAUSED. Simply, click your mouse inside of the TelegramToMT4 window and you should see blinking again.

TelegramToMT4 Crashing

One VIP member said the program was crashing because he forgot to add +1 for the country code.

After he did this, it stopped crashing.

How to use only TP1 or only TP2?

If you want the copier to open a trade exclusively for TP1 or TP2, simply put -1 in the Lots TP1 or Lots TP2 above.

In the image below, since -1 is in the Lots TP2 section, the copier would only open a single trade for TP1 at 2%. It would not open a trade for TP2, because -1 is in the Lots TP2 section.

Using TP1 only, is a low risk way of using the VIP copier.

Why is Forex Robot Nation Copier showing a sad face or generally not working :(?

Your chart should look like this, with a happy face.

You need to allow autotrading / live trading.

Go to Tools > Options

Then click Expert Advisors tab and Allow Automated Trading

Or Right click on your chart, go to expert advisors > properties

Then go to the common tab and tick Allow live trading

This will resolve the sad face issue.

How many charts do I install this on?

You only need to install the Forex Robot Nation Copier on 1 chart.

You DO NOT need to install it on every chart.

What to do with pairs that look like USDJPYi or EURUSD.HKT?

In these cases you need to add a suffix. This is shown in the video above.

So next to suffix you would enter .HKT or i

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If you can’t enter your password into the telegram connector.

Just simply type and press enter.

The password is just hidden for privacy purposes.

If you struggle with doing it this way then put your password in a notepad, then copy it (Ctrl + C), and paste it (CTRL + V) into the connector that way.

I actually had to do this myself, and it works.

Does this work on MAC?

Yes, the MAC installation guide is now included in the ZIP download file.

This installation guide was graciously provided by our member Joey G 💪

Why was it written?

The number one issue our VIP members face is “missing the signal.” So, we wrote this software to “copy and paste” the signal to their trading platform for them. It does this while they are working, driving, eating, sleeping, spending time with family and friends or watching Trade with Pat videos 🙂

Who is this for?

VIP members only who are serious about trading.

What does it cost?

Currently, it’s included with the membership. You’re welcome.

How do I get it?

Join the VIP group and follow the setup instructions.

Why do I have to be a VIP to get the software?

The Trade Copier is ideal for those traders who are trading multiple signals a day. It does not make sense for inactive traders.

Who is responsible if I lose money?

You are. You have always been responsible for losses, poor risk management and any other risky behavior in the market.

Will I get rich with this?

No. Many of our members use these signals to grow their accounts. Some, quite successfully. Even with the fantastic results our members see in the VIP group, it will not make you rich. Trading is a disciplined skill and only the most elite traders are able to become unreasonably wealthy by trading. However, if you want to grow your account and “earn while you learn” then VIP membership and the Trade Copier could be ideal for you.  


1) Check blinking white cursor on script
2) Check if that specific message was parsed corrrectly and visible into the script window
3) Check on MT4/MT5 if that signal was handled correctly

Solve problems

1) you have accidentally paused the script
2) internet connection problems or copier possible problem due to bad message format
3) if signal not arrived to metatrader, copier is very probably not installed correctly

If all 3 steps are ok, no reasons for not seeing trades opened rather than broker related or misconfiguration problems (like opening 100 lots with $100, set acceptable lot sizes / risk %)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 1)

The Trading Strategies Used in VIP (Strategy 2)

If there is anything else you would like to see in here, any questions, anything at all. I will make specific videos for each.

I look forward to growing your accounts!

Much love.


  1. Been in VIP for a little over a week. Seems all the signals come 12-5am MT time while I’m asleep haha. Is this normal? Virtually 0 signals during the day so far…

  2. Hi guys, I’m new here and set up the copier. Does anyone know how I can risk .50% per trade on TP 1 only? So far I changed the setting to .50. for risk factor. On TP 2 do I put in -1 or -.50?

    Thank you!

  3. Hi Pat, can you check on the last post of your telegram VIP, GBPCHF hit stop loss a while now and NZDCAD did hit TP1 and TP2. Or I’m incorrect?
    Thank you for work BTW, much love!

  4. Update: everything seem to be working well except for breakeven signal, the close signals work, the breakeven signals never works.

  5. Hi Pat
    I think we all appreciate your work and enthusiasm in the forex world.
    Well only three weeks in VIP and it’s been unlucky and not great so far but I’m in for a year so it’s far too soon to make an opinion. Yesterday’s trades on 9th I did think the SL were way tight. Maybe a useful setting in the copier would be minimum SL. If you were 50 pips it wouldn’t change but if you were 10 I could try setting to 20. Because I prefer a bigger SL.
    And I do wish you would account for the two trades if they lose. If you were linked to myfxbook you couldn’t just say we took two trades if they both win but we only took one trade if they both lose. Results would be a bit less but accurate.
    I did get the manual close today in the copier, first time, maybe because the pair name was mentioned in the message which it wasn’t before.
    ATB and we’ll look forward to winning streaks…

    • Ya don’t worry Howard, we’ve had losing streaks before. We backtest our strategies and return to profit. Earlier this year we had a bad month, hundreds of clients left. Then we went on a 5 straight month winning streak making up all the losses and gaining much more. Those that stuck with us, benefited greatly.

  6. Pip Tolerance functionality does not work.
    Please fix it.


  7. hi pat,

    the copytrader on mine sucessfully places trades and correctly set T/P, S/L. However it doesn’t seem to act on manually closed messages, or messages that say to change S/L positions.

    Is this an error or are these actions not covered by the copytrader?

  8. Hi Pat

    I have downloaded your free trade copier, however when I run the Telegram connector, I don’t receive the code on my mobile. I am using the correct format with ‘+’ as prefix. I even tried using 00 as prefix, still no luck.

    The downloaded version is FRN-1.01-3

    Could you please advise?

    Many thanks

  9. Hello Patrick,

    Thank you for the trade copier..
    I have have been able to open the TelegramToMT4 connector and connect to my phone, it is only not blinking. I physically need to click on the page in order to see the signal come in.
    Do you know what I am doing wrong?

  10. Hi my mt4 broker time is GMT+1 (UK) and yesterday the 2x GBPNZD were placed at 11.07 at 1.94450 and both hit SL at 1.93940 before then going on to hit TP1 and TP2. However on your chart both trades never hit SL – so i assume were entered on the leg up. Buy stop/buy limit? Were my trades entered too early? Any GMT offset i should be setting on the copier bot – if so i can’t see such a setting?

    • Hi Rik, the trades didn’t trigger until after the SL, as shown in the image we provided with the signal. It triggered for some clients, but I don’t see what I can do about this. We are not brokers, we are not manipulating.

  11. Hi,
    I am a newish VIP member. Saw the last signal last night
    EUR/GBP was supposed to close at breakeven. Telegram running as usual but this trade was not closed.
    Anyone else having this issue? Was the wrong codes sent to telegram and it failed to close the trade?

  12. Telegram BOT, he unsubscribe me form VIP group. I bought subscription last week.
    Where is the problem?

    Thank you.

  13. I just want to say thank you!

    Using your signals I passed my funded account challenge.

    Now to quit my job.. lol.. soon 🙂

  14. Hi Pat,

    With the weekly results it seems you report TP1 but only report TP2 if it gets there. Does this mean you have 2 trades open? Of this is the case and the trade goes against you straight away and ends in SL shouldn’t you be reporting 2 x SL trades in the weekly report? How else can you claim both TP levels?

    Not trying to catch you out or accuse you of dishonesty I’m just trying to understand as I have the EA opening 2 trades at the moment (1 for each TP level) and when they go against me I have 2 losses.

    Also, is there a way of setting the 2nd trade (TP2 level) to change the SL to break even when TP1 is hit?


    • Hi Joshua, this is discussed in the first video on this page about trade management. It is reported as one trade with good trade management. We do not claim / add both TP levels. The assumption is the trade was managed properly and allowed to reach TP2. This is the market standard. If there is a better way you feel of doing this, you are welcome to email me. Trade management is important.

  15. Hello I have done all necessary steps and see that trades are not being placed . Not sure what could be wrong . Can you get back to me on this.

  16. Hey Pat. Will both the EA and Telegram to MT4 run on the MT4 VPS if the laptop is off? My laptop has to be powered off when I am not working 🙁

  17. Hi Pat,
    Lot of settings available in copier like trailing stop etc …. What do you personally use and recomand?

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